linux has gcc,g++

So…

I’m not saying Linux doesn’t have any good tools.

@WANT2BFREE
Cygwin offers gcc and g++ to Windows too. Netbeans uses it to work with C.

Man, Visual Studio is amazing. I use Linux daily, and have dabbled with some random IDEs and even tried to integrate Vim into my “getting work done” workflow.

Took me a bit to realize that there ain’t nothing on that Linux (or on OSX for that matter) that even compares to Visual Studio, even though people like to tell me Vim and Textmate are “so much better”.

yes but gcc is better integrated on linux then on windows. cygwin is a hack.

If Cygwin isn’t your cup o’ tea, there’s Mingw32 and SFU/SUA if you’re hellbent on using GCC.

Either way, you’d think a sensible Windows developer would be using MSVC/MSVC++ on Windows (or ICC or LLVM in the interest of shipping on other platform, both integrate into VS fairly trivially), anyway, which are integrated right into VS, might I add.

I’m not sure what precisely you mean by “better integrated” besides “there by default” and/or “in your $PATH” by default.

As has been discussed there are far better options, even on Linux, than GCC, which has by far the worst platform optimizations (and as Queefer has demonstrated chokes on ANSI standard C). ICC, MSVC, SunStudio and even LLVM kill GCC in terms of platform optimization on their primary platforms. So you’re effectively arguing that Windows lacks good developer tools on the grounds that Linux has “better integration” for a suboptimal compiler collection.

Yes, I’m still alive <3.