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Freetards are convinced that Microsoft forces you to upgrade to the newest Windows, by stopping support for older versions.

This is a funny fact considering that windows XP will be supported till 2014 (that’s a full 13 years support). Not to mention that even after 2014, executables will continue to run on XP (just look at the programs windows 98 can still run…).

This is an even funnier fact when you consider Ubuntu’s support policy : 1 year support, 3 years for LTS versions. So if we assume Microsoft forces you to upgrade with a 13 years support, whan can we say about Ubuntu ? Looks to me like they’re restricting your freedoms.

But what’s even funnier is that even within the single year support of a random ubuntu version, if you want the latest version of a piece of software, you’ll NEED to upgrade the WHOLE OS.

Yet, Microsoft restricts your freedoms, and Ubuntu makes you free. Yet, you can run Firefox 3.5 on Windows 98, but you can’t install it on Ubuntu 8.10. You’ll have to upgrade to 9.10.

An interesting fact is that Apple doesn’t offer any support for its 3 year old OS, and if you bought a G5 machine in 2006 it’s almost useless now. But freetards whine only about Microsoft’s vendor lock-in, and when told about Apple, they ignore it, because, you know, AnythingButMicrosoft™.

Posted by Fustigator on Dec 9, 2009 4:40 AM

I think you should link this TM to BiannualForcedDeathMarch™ and YouDontNeedTheLastVersion™

Posted by administrator on Dec 9, 2009 4:43 AM

Remember when Microsoft forced us to upgrade to the latest version of Windows just so we could use the newest Firefox!?

Oh wait, that was Linux desktop, sorry.

Posted by hoppi on Dec 9, 2009 1:32 PM

yes, and I'd like to see you do everything with Windows XP on an older machine that is possible with a Linux distro running KDE4 on that same machine.

Good. Luck. :)

Posted by EDavidBurg on Dec 9, 2009 1:36 PM

Um. How is that comment relevant to this ™?

Posted by Chlorus on Dec 9, 2009 1:45 PM

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yes, and I'd like to see you do everything with Windows XP on an older machine that is possible with a Linux distro running KDE4 on that same machine.

Good. Luck. :)
"

You mean run like garbage, or have the frakking KDE-taskbar shut down for no apparent reason each time I log in? Or such fun nonsense as enabling KWin 3D acceleration and not being to log in afterward when X11 immediately starts crashing? Oh, how's that support for my sound card still coming along? Still nonexistent, I see.

Posted by administrator on Dec 9, 2009 1:54 PM

@Hoppi: Ok, I'll sync my ipod, purchase movies on iTunes, use my midi hardware to write a song, jump into the Flash IDE and animate a television series (my real job is at a flash-based animation studio with over 200 people), etc.

No matter what distro, you don't even HAVE a flash IDE in Linux so if I were using it, I'd be out of a job.

Posted by hoppi on Dec 9, 2009 4:33 PM

You can sync ipods, use 7digital for buying music, KDE doesn't crash much anymore and is breathtaking.

Linux can't help it's support or lack of. What programs are available shouldn't be a mark of a good or bad OPERATING SYSTEM.

Posted by Chlorus on Dec 9, 2009 5:51 PM

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You can sync ipods, use 7digital for buying music, KDE doesn't crash much anymore and is breathtaking"

You Linux losers never gave that much credit back when MS fixed Windows back with NT. Nowadays, the only system crashes are from either faulty drivers or failing filesystems.

"Linux can't help it's support or lack of. What programs are available shouldn't be a mark of a good or bad OPERATING SYSTEM."

It can by having decent APIs and a development base that isn't hostile to development for profit. Furthermore, what in god's name is the point of an operating system without decent programs? (BTW, most Linux sync apps for the iPod don't work with the newer iPods)

Posted by Nosh on Dec 9, 2009 6:06 PM

"I'd like to see you do everything with Windows XP on an older machine that is possible with a Linux distro running KDE4 on that same machine."

that sounds astonishingly easy.

Posted by DrLoser on Dec 9, 2009 6:49 PM

Well, I've already asked Hoppi to give me a challenge. How about it, little man? You tell me your favourite application (and I'm not talking about some cretinous KDE4 "GUI" wraparound. I'll build a better GUI myself, thanks) that will persuade you to use XP Home.

Just one.

I'll give you that much.

I'm not free, but I'm cheap as hell.

Posted by hoppi on Dec 10, 2009 12:30 AM

I don't understand what you mean, do you mean my favourite Linux app or Windows app?

Posted by Frak on Dec 10, 2009 12:39 AM

Arguing with Hoppi is like arguing with Visual Basic Developers.

You, yourself know that you don't know everything, but you're very wise in your choices, and the VB devs think they know everything, ever, and are always right based on the blogs they read.

Posted by administrator on Dec 10, 2009 2:45 AM

Hoppi, what if I want to buy the latest episode of my favourite tv show? Suddenly your 7Digital argument falls flat.

Face it. You can't run itunes. And saying "use Wine" is cheating. That's like saying "can't do something in Linux? Use Windows"

Posted by DrLoser on Dec 10, 2009 2:44 PM

@Hoppi

Of course you don't understand what I mean. You're a moron.

You're also the same moron who posted to LinuxIsMalwareProof(TM).

By "favourite," I don't mean "kuddly koala." I mean "the first one you'd like to see work, because I'm waiting for X and Y and Z."

Don't be disingenuous -- in fact, without the aid of a dictionary and massive amounts of pharmaceuticals, I doubt you will ever be disingenuous.

Just pick one, or WatchYourMouth(TM) off.

Posted by DrLoser on Dec 10, 2009 2:52 PM

And just to make it plain, Hoppi: Yes. Linux.

I believe your pathetic little argument referred to those of us who whinge about dire Linux "applications," but can't be bothered to fix them.

As I understand it, the argument does not apply to YerFaveWindozeApp.

So, I'm challenging you.

Pick one, or shut up and go back to the Ramsgate dockyard, which still has uses for knuckleheads like you.

Posted by hoppi on Dec 10, 2009 10:27 PM

But I don't MISS any applications :(

I mean, sometimes I have issues running Spotify through Wine but I don't really mind that much as it doesn't bother me I love Amarok anyway.

Thing is I still think it's silly arguing support issues, these applications exist for Windows because it's more popular, save for me feeling seriously starved of apps under Linux (which I PERSONALLY do not feel at all, only sometimes starved of games which is why I dual boot) I am going to choose my favourite operating system, which is Ubuntu with an up-to-date kubuntu-desktop bunged on top of it :)

Posted by administrator on Dec 14, 2009 10:14 PM

@Hoppi, you hardly use anything beyond a web browser. Of course you don't feel "starved". Just like if all I did was play solitaire I wouldn't feel starved for games either.

Editing any home movies? Writing any music? Buying any music off iTunes? These are all tasks the average user does, if they weren't, they wouldn't be on the OSX dock by default. You represent the _less_ than average user, the one who does nothing but check Facebook status and Twitter.

The only thing un-ordinary (I refuse to call it extraordinary) thing you do with your operating system is _install_ your operating system over and over.

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