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Sep 30, 2011 5:14 AM
By _sw
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The belief that Miguel de Icaza is a paid Microsoft shill because he started the Mono project, advocates OOXML and is critical of the Linux desktop.

  • He thinks there are only around 10 “great desktop apps” for Linux. Now, a very large amount of the software available for Linux is also available for windows. I would guess around 90%. Quite often, software that is cross-platform runs more efficiently on Windows and Mac OSX than it does on Linux (Firefox, Chrome, Adobe Flash Player are good examples here.) There is very little software that is only available for Linux. At the moment, I can think of two examples: Transmission and Audacious. Transmission is a lightweight bittorrent client that is also available for Mac OSX, the closest Windows replacement would be uTorrent. Many people do prefer uTorrent to Transmission, so it’s hardly a killer app. Audacious is quite a good media player, the closest alternatives for Windows are Foobar2000 and WinAmp. Again, not exactly killer software since Audacious is essentially a copy of Foobar2000 and WinAmp with a few things changed. Taking cross-platform software in to account, he’s probably correct. The Linux Hater’s blog has a nice graph on the quality of open source software. That is, a very small amount of programs (usually those which are funded with monies) are of high quality, and the rest is largely shit.
  • He has advocated OOXML. The Linux community has been very critical of this ISO standard, calling it proprietary, an attack on ODT, etc. That’s despite the fact that OOXML is a superior standard to ODT in both features and execution. Really, they only dislike it because of who it came from, their arch enemy which doesn’t really see them as an enemy at all.
  • He started the Mono project and has advocated its use. I’m not really going to go in to detail on the Mono project and Boycott Novell loons, there’s plenty of that on the internet already. Richard Stallman has actually said that Mono’s patent issues may be slightly worrying, but it is good to see support for more languages on free operating systems. This is again ignoring good software because it does not conform to your ideology. Not that Boycott Novell even have an ideology, outside of hating Microsoft. I’m not an expert on Mono, I haven’t used it. I know people who have, however, and according to them it is an excellent piece of software that even solves a few problems on Linux (library hell).

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#1 Posted by _sw on Sep 30, 2011 6:32 AM

Oh, there is a port of Transmission to Windows using Qt, it just isn’t “officially supported”.

#2 Posted by Gesh on Sep 30, 2011 7:51 AM

Of course he is MS shill! The rejection of his job application to MS is a sinister move from the corporation – they planted him undercover to trash Linux from inside! Even the fact that he invented Gnome, among other things, is a clever plan to fragment the Linux desktop to no end, so nothing useful comes from it!

Oh, boy, I tried to be funny, but I ended up sounding like Adam King. Just need to put a few $ instead of s here and there.

#3 Posted by administrator on Sep 30, 2011 11:38 AM

Miguel found the TM Repository funny and tweeted about it a while ago. So he MUST be a shill ;)

#4 Posted by ChrisTX on Sep 30, 2011 3:00 PM

“That’s despite the fact that OOXML is a superior standard to ODT in both features and execution.”

OOXML vs ODF, the short edition:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/daycount/tc/office.html

From Microsoft, ODF and OOXML are licensed under the same OSP terms.

#5 Posted by JoeMonco on Sep 30, 2011 4:30 PM

“Miguel found the TM Repository funny and tweeted about it a while ago. So he MUST be a shill”

More like circlejerking nametard winbred.

Did I get the terminology right?

#6 Posted by DrLoser on Sep 30, 2011 4:42 PM

Why ask us? Go back to your butt-hurt buddies on LHB and OMG-CC, you boring little 200-word precis-pirating peddler.

Scumbag.

(Did I get that terminology right? It’s surprisingly hard to be pointlessly insulting when you have nothing else to say.)

#7 Posted by ReverseControllerSE on Sep 30, 2011 5:14 PM

Well, the sockpuppets are perma-butthurt – that’s a fact, not an insult… well, maybe it is an insult – to the sockpuppets.

#8 Posted by DrLoser on Sep 30, 2011 5:24 PM

(What I particularly enjoyed about that comment on LHB — which I don’t think was made by an Adam sock-puppet — was the explicit number selected.

(Two hundred words? Jesus. Strip off foot-notes and attributions and even equations, and you’d be hard-pressed to express a mathematical argument in less than two hundred words.

(Two hundred? Is this supposed to be an insult on LHB? God help the divots when they actually get around to being nice to somebody, like, say, the girlfriend.)

#9 Posted by _sw on Sep 30, 2011 5:50 PM

I fulfilled a prophecy made by an Anon on LHB? Awesome.

#10 Posted by DrLoser on Sep 30, 2011 6:04 PM

Get over it. It’s just an Anon.

Not, in fact, awesome.

Mind you, worth a gold star or something.

#11 Posted by ReverseControllerSE on Sep 30, 2011 6:18 PM

@Doctor
Are they ever nice… to anybody? ... Place your bets!

As far as 200 words are concerned, well all I can say is: Adam can’t read and the socpuppets can’t count — a match made in LHB.

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Also, note that we keep getting called “boring”, yet somehow they keep reading our “boring diatribes”.

#12 Posted by DrLoser on Sep 30, 2011 6:46 PM

And that’s vitally important in what way, precisely?

#13 Posted by ReverseControllerSE on Sep 30, 2011 7:13 PM

None what-so-ever.

Should it be?

#14 Posted by administrator on Sep 30, 2011 8:20 PM

You guys are soooo boring!

#15 Posted by ReverseControllerSE on Sep 30, 2011 8:32 PM

I know, right – it’s so bad one could fall asleep… well, that may have something to do with the time…

#16 Posted by Adam_King on Oct 1, 2011 10:20 PM

He’s also a FailedShill™ seeing how the entire Mono team got laid off from the Microsoft puppet company Novell. I suggest adding that as a related trademark.

#17 Posted by ReverseControllerSE on Oct 2, 2011 12:17 PM

Failed freetard if anything – he should have gotten a job at MS… oh, wait.

#18 Posted by fewt on Oct 5, 2011 3:23 PM

Don’t forget this is the same guy that started the GNOME project because KDE wasn’t free enough.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza#GNOME.2C_Ximian.2C_Xamarin.2C_and_Mono

He deserves gobs of respect, but he gets none from certain zealots because he is a fan of a technology that was created by Microsoft.

Pathetic.

#19 Posted by JoeMonco on Oct 5, 2011 4:29 PM

“He deserves gobs of respect, but he gets none from certain zealots because he is a fan of a technology that was created by Microsoft.”

I, for one, don’t have much respect for the guy, and I don’t believe that Mono has much of a future ahead. Nevertheless, I do like Mono for the fact that it is to freetards what garlic is to vampires or what Twilight to anyone that is not a teenage girl. Hey, it’s hardly some crazy deus ex machina, but as long as it does the job, I am cool with it.

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