Take a look at the request that starts this thread at Ars Technica
*Utility to Change NTFS Permissions…Anybody know a decent tool for changing MS permissions? ps: I am not interested in any crappy tools that M$ provide on their
site.*
Think about that for a second. This fellow is working on files from within Microsoft Windows. He needs to change the metadata as it is stored on a Microsoft filesystem from within the Microsoft OS. His one qualification he places on the tool is that it not be a Microsoft tool, because he thinks such tools are “crappy”.
Actual quote: “I don’t want to use any of the Microsoft tools out there for changing permissions because they are crap.”
He doesn’t even know what such tools are, but he already knows they are crap. Likewise, he doesn’t even know if an open-source alternative even exists but he knows it is better than the Microsoft tool.
Never mind the self-evident fact that nobody would know NTFS better than Microsoft would, or that any application that runs in Windows to manipulate the files would be calling Microsoft developed APIs or so on… He was desperately looking for some thin non-MS layer which in the end will do nothing but call MS-written APIs like NtQuerySecurityObject and NtSetSecurityObject or whatever…
I think of this as a superset trademark for a lot of the anti-MS FUDs and trademarks quoted by Anybody-But-Microsofters. Microsoft can’t code and has no taste; their OS is ugly and full of bugs and it crashes all the time and is bloated. But the OS and the office suite has something around a 90% share. How can that be? It must be because of the cheating or the bribery or the extortion or the lawsuits or the sabotage of competitors or the locking out of competitors. Microsoft hires programmers who failed out of community college, or were former hobos who said they could code because he company offered them some hot beans.
There’s no possibility that Microsoft makes good software, not even in situations where it simply interacts with other Microsoft software.
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Well to be fair, in tghe multimedia segment, Microsoft can‘t make good software. Because their software can‘t save into anything other than WMV/WMA. DVD maker doesn‘t support SRT subtitles. The sound recording utility is lame as ever.
I think the last time I used a multimedia tool to change NTFS permissions was, oh, let me see … back in … er, I have never used a multimedia tool to change NTFS permissions.
I’m sure there are a bazillion things that can’t be done well with Microsoft tools. But that’s hardly the point, is it?
Taking the hilarity one step further, somebody presumably pays “komatsu” to “deal a lot with “hdds extracted from old laptops and PC.” I mean, judging by his attitude problem, I don’t suppose he’s doing it for fun.
In other words, this isn’t just a casual Loon. This is a professional Loon.
Gawd, I hope other “professions” aren’t infiltrated by time-wasting money-burners like this. Oh, wait …
In encouraging news, it does look like 'komatsu’ was monumentally pwned for being so stupid.
Well, assuming that nobody from here participated.
What a tool.
Searching Google for “tool to change NTFS permissions” would have returned this – http://www.techfeb.com/2011/05/ntfs-permissions-tool-change-file-and-folder-permissions-easy/- on the first page. In fact, it’s the result above his thread on Ars!
Best reply to him so far;
“You’ve come in here with some crazed religion and we’re treating you with a mixture of bewilderment and hilarity. What did you expect?”
I have found perfect solution for him http://svn.reactos.org/svn/reactos/trunk/reactos/base/applications/cacls/ it’s FOSS therefore it:
1) Aims at ripping off some outdated (two generations at this point) proprietary tool
2) Some functionality (in this case listing ACLs, but not modifying them or working with MIC in any way) is already ripped off
3) It DOESN’T do what he wants (but will do eventually)
4) And the best thing about it is that it’s not a “crappy Microsoft tool”
I think it’s a perfect match for loons like him.
And best of all, it’s ReactOS!
The Free OS of the future, once Linux has been assimilated by the Androiborg!
It should keep Unixisc happy, at any rate…
@DrLoser
My point was that if they are multimedia tools and made by Microsoft, you can tell they are crap without having used them. So, the “i know MS tools will be crap without even using them“ applies in the case of multimedia tools.
@Kurkos:
Look, I don’t want to knock your hobbyhorse, but (a) if you want to do multimedia on Windows, you buy a proprietary tool; as usual, farting around with FOSS will only get you so far. At that point you’re wandering away from Microsoft APIs and using something purpose-built by somebody else for, essentially, a non-MS-related purpose.
And (b) we’d both agree that it’s insane to expect a “clean hands” approach to fiddling with NTFS internals, which is what this post is all about.
And© there is a tool that does precisely what the Loon wants, and as far as I’m aware it’s free, and he even admits that he will be doing the work on a Windows system. The only problem is, it’s written by Microsoft.
I mean, what does he expect?
Seriously, the idiot has no defence. You can have your arguments on the sidelines, but I’m 100% certain that you’d agree on this one.
“So, the “i know MS tools will be crap without even using them“ applies in the case of multimedia tools.”
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegassoftware
Hey look – $100 for Vegas Platinum, which you can install on $300 laptop and show the kid next to you what a pointless waste of space he is for nagging his mommy and daddy for a Mac.
Ironically, the “built for designers” Mac doesn’t come with any sort of paint program. I’m not saying MS Paint is good, but it certainly beats having nothing.
Though for $30 on the Mac App Store you can get Pixelmator
http://www.pixelmator.com/
You know I was wondering why Kurkos always bitches about Movie Maker only saving in WMA/WMV.
Then I installed iTunes and was immediately reminded that Apple pretends that MS media formats don’t exist.
Given that Kurkos said he owns a Mac, I have to conclude that he is exclusively whining because he can’t use files made with Windows tools on his Mac.
Notice that he isn’t complaining about Apple or Mac’s built in tools (that lack support for WMA/WMV), no, he only complains about MS tools…
Surprising? ... Well, I guess not.
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