Who’s friend is he?

Oh God. Techrights makes me want to vomit. This is just.. I don’t even have the words to describe it. I’d rather read Florian Mueller’s ramblings about Google than read this abomination.

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“funny how one or two GRUB developers can handle it just fine”

Funny indeed. If GRUB2 was a success, then I don’t know what a failure is.

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“I wonder how much Linus “likes Tivoization” now?”

Does he even realize that GPLv3 is actually making things a lot more complicated than they should be? And if Linux was GPLv3, signing it by vendors would’ve been nigh impossible.

Newsflash: If you put restrictions on your software, less people will use it, not more.

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“Microsoft boosters try to belittle the problem”

I’m not a Microsoft booster and I belittle the problem. Seriously, if Windows8-certified computers came without a way to disable UEFI secure boot, anti-monopoly regulations will be all over them faster than booting Windows 8 (which is supposed to be pretty fast).

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“whereas Linux advocates do not”

And the above sentence is linked to, drum roll, Mr. Pogson. Brilliant.

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the comments

Now if you’ll excuse me, I like my lunch and my keyboard, but I don’t want them to meet.

@Kim:

Excellent question.

Ted published a link to somebody who has spent more time than is sane chasing up these fools. Unfortunately I can’t trace it right now. (It’s somewhere back in the last month or so.)

I considered quoting “My enemy’s enemy is my friend,” but you know what?

Even that doesn’t excuse Dr Roy.

Do I really have to read the comments, IMG? OK, I will.

Sanity is no defence in the face of Bootyliciousness.

Some random git at IBM said that in the 1970s. I could quote it, but I won’t.

“Desktops are a tiny fraction of the world’s computers.”

Apparently I live in the wrong parallel universe.

It really depends on what you define as a “computer”. If you mean “anything that has a CPU”, then yes, there are a few orders of magnitudes such devices more than desktops. But then, only a very small percentage of those run Linux either (despite what they say about it running on toasters and calculators).

On the other hand, if you mean “general purpose computer”, which includes desktops (I’m assuming he also means laptops by “desktops”), phones, tablets, and few more devices, then yeah, he’s off his rocker.

Referncing Ted on the Arch-Loons? This

The link I posted was mainly about the arch-loon Twitter;

http://verofakto.blogspot.com/2009/10/boycottnovell-minion-nymshifts-again.html

But here are some other highlights from the same site;

http://verofakto.blogspot.com/2011/01/whats-wrong-with-boycottnovell-example.html
http://verofakto.blogspot.com/2011/01/boycottnovell-and-liabilities.html
http://verofakto.blogspot.com/2011/01/deconstructing-boycottnovell-steve-jobs.html
http://verofakto.blogspot.com/2009/11/just-another-day-at-boycottnovell.html
http://verofakto.blogspot.com/2009/07/timeline-of-david-schlesingermark.html

@DrLoser;

“I considered quoting 'My enemy’s enemy is my friend’”

But sometimes, they’re just another enemy of your enemy and nothing more. The loons cannot seem to grasp that, especially when it comes to Google.

.... He… Has… a… PhD?

Gee, no wonder the education system is going downhill.

“Desktops are a tiny fraction of the world’s computers.”

Seriously? Can anyone be that divorced from reality?

Windows 7 a failure? The operating system that overtook desktop Linux’s market share while still a Release Candidate? (While loons like Pogson claim that very few people install operating systems themselves.)

And then to bring up Palladium? Does he not realise that Linux itself supports TPM modules?

I wonder if these people should be made aware of the fact, that the person who needs to weigh in for their intellectual void to be filled, is actually our very own JoeMonco.

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Who the f*ck is this Šestovic anyway?

Is it even worth asking that question, Ted?

@RC:

Follow Ted’s links. Apparently, he’s German.

Now, class. Can we spell “Muenchen?”

Yes: Minhen.

There you go.

I wanted to see the “About page” of this Šestovic persona, so I went on until I landed on his web page…

Words cannot express what I saw, really I don’t even…

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See for yourselfs, not that I recommend it:
http://schestowitz.com/roy/

yourselfs = yourselves

See what happens, if you look into the realm of the loon.

München mag Dich!

Aber nur, wenn sie auf Linux prostrata selbst.

How’s that anything but Microsoft thing in the reactionary heartland of Germany doing, anyhow?

Well, by this logic they hate most everyone.

Wouldn’t be a surprise, after forced use of Durden.

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It’s (probably still) going well, just like the voyage of the Titanic went “well”.

Guys, guys, how about we first wait to see if “secure boot” actually prevents Linux from booting, and then we start bitching about it?

Here is how i think things will pan out: If a manufacturer disables the ability to turn off secure boot, a massive sh!t storm will occur, so they will immediatelly enable it back. It doesn’t cost them anything to enable it. Plus, many companies like HP actually support running Linux on their laptops and desktops (despite the alleged bribing from Microsoft), so you can bet secure boot will be disable-able in their laptops.

Seriously, this whole paranoia about secure boot came to existence because one freetarded writer in OSNews said that “OEMs will disable the ability to turn off secure boot, like they always do with BIOS features”. What? OEMs disable some BIOS features because they were sick and tired of being flooded with returned machines having stability issues, just to find out later that little Jimmy had overclocked the machine to death. Features that can’t cause stability problems are always there.

P.S. Wanna bet that Ballmer will come out the next week and say that secure boot isn’t about preventing linux from running, and it’s all about preventing OEM copies to be sold as retail, or about preventing rootkits? In the same way WGA was going to spy on the poor users, according to the loons, while in reality was just an anti piracy tool?

One freakin post at a time, Pirate Boy, one freakin post at a time.

Just because bits are free, it don’t mean you have to spray them all over the place.

Besides, and let me drill this through your thick thieving skull:

YOU CAN SWITCH IT OFF IN BIOS.

It’s not a goddamn technical argument. It’s just one more coconut shy throw at the Loons.

And where the heck did Ballmer suddenly enter into the picture?

Oh, he means UEFI settings screen, it’ll always be called BIOS.

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Ahh, let there be simplicity, so that all who need it can live at peace with the world.

He doesn’t mean anything of the sort. He’s just copypasta’ed from the previous thread.

Sainted Followers Of The Queef!

Well, could it be that it had meaning in that other thread?

I vaguely remember reading it there; the memory of any attached meaning did sort of left me by this time, however.

Also, there was no lulz, that I do remember – so sad.

“Wanna bet,” Kurkos. Sure. In a week, will you admit that you are full of sh!t?

But how much?

A million billion? A chair throw? A pirated music collection? An actual Win7 Retail license?

Oh the questions, they fill us with the thirst for answers.

@RC:

“So, Mrs Lincoln.

“Apart from that, did you enjoy the play?”

@IMGX64:

“Gee, no wonder the education system is going downhill.”

Only in Britain. And, obviously, Greece. Mind you, in Greece, education has historically been a way to put off National Service against the hated Turks as long as possible.

I suppose a system like that would turn any young impressionable mind towards piracy. Or plagiarising himself. Whichever comes first, and puts off the evil day.

I should have stated the currency… Hm, but which one to choose… Drachma perhaps?

Of course if it comes to pass that drachma comes back into use, a million billion of them will be worth about 3 Euros.

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Well at the very least it’ll be easier for people who can’t stand cockroaches – they’ll finally understand why they see them.

That cockroaches thing is a rather obscure reference, RC. I think I understand where it comes from; but nobody else will.

Well, the statement “Wanna bet” is as captivating as it is wrong – that is to say “not all that much”, I, however, am easily distracted.

So about those millions and billions… oh trillions, you say, also a good number, I like it – billion trillion it is! ... ee… where was I? Eh, never mind.

Re: obscure reference:
It really isn’t my problem when folks don’t add the proper blogs into their “Community” section.

This may or may not come with some ramifications, such as, perhaps, the lack of readers’ ability to follow the conversation.

Well what can we do, eh? Should I put a link to Pete’s blog?

DON’T!

Please.

“Katherine Noyes, a great GNU/Linux advocate, [...]”

Did you mean: A great TopTen™ poster?

“Guys, guys, how about we first wait to see if “secure boot” actually prevents Linux from booting, and then we start bitching about it?”

Yep, that’s what I’ve been saying all along, but the paranoia is strong in this one.

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“Plus, many companies like HP actually support running Linux on their laptops and desktops (despite the alleged bribing from Microsoft), so you can bet secure boot will be disable-able in their laptops.”

It’s not just HP, other companies like Lenovo, Dell, Acer, Asus, etc also do. See: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification

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“Seriously, this whole paranoia about secure boot came to existence because one freetarded writer in OSNews said that “OEMs will disable the ability to turn off secure boot, like they always do with BIOS features”.”

Sadly, it’s more than one writer. And even LWN posted about it (granted, it was just a link to the Redhat employee everyone has been linking to, but the comments are worrisome).

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“P.S. Wanna bet that Ballmer will come out the next week and say that secure boot isn’t about preventing linux from running, and it’s all about preventing OEM copies to be sold as retail, or about preventing rootkits? In the same way WGA was going to spy on the poor users, according to the loons, while in reality was just an anti piracy tool?”

What? Microsoft employees treat Linux like Voldemort except on very few occasions. Look at the “rebuttal” article from Microsoft, they don’t mention the L-word¹ once, despite the fact that all the complaints came from Linux users. You might be right about the OEM and piracy part, but not about mentioning Linux.

[1] If you watched Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, no, not that L-word.

This seems like a LOT of time and money spent just to prevent Linux, an OS with sub 1% marketshare, from booting.

It seems like the best way to prevent Linux from booting on a PC would be for Microsoft to actually let people try desktop Linux.

“Desktops are a tiny fraction of the world’s computers.”

You’re doing it wrong – “Linux Desktops are a tiny fraction of the world’s computers.” – Here, fixed.

ok, I looked at 'dr’ Roy’s CV …

“Education: 2000-2003: B.Sc. Software Engineering (1st); 2003-2006: Ph.D. Medical Biophysics.”

First of all, no sane university lets anyone with a degree in Software Engineering pursue a Ph.D. in Medical Biophysics ( I wouldn’t be allowed to either, even though I have degree in physics, with actual medical physics as my Master’s thesis ).

And second of all … you can’t get a Ph.D. with only a Bachelor’s degree. You need a Master’s for that, all over the civilized world.

Moron …

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Pretty sure that’s actually not the case — you sign up for a Master’s, and if the university likes you then you’re given the opportunity to turn it into a doctorate.

I do find it worrying that an ostensibly decent university was willing to give him a good degree, however.

This particular part of the site is rather amusing: http://techrights.org/credibility-index/

This isn’t an index of how 'credible’ these people are. It’s an index of how willing they are to toe the party line.

@Pete:

That’s always my favourite part of the site to trip over. We even had a FUD devoted to it: http://www.tmrepository.com/fudtracker/masters-of-the-loonyverse/

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/the-open-source-revolution-10014902/articles-of-roy-schestowitz-10022241/

Features a comment from Wayne Borean bemoaning “Microsoft sock-puppets”, and more than a few of Roy’s comments removed for being “legally risky”.

I love Roy’s “I link to over 100 external articles per day.” as if he does it manually. His scraping routines linked to articles on PieStar that ripped FOSS and the GPL to pieces, ffs! I’ve seen an article that he linked to, with his headline sneering about Windows 7 booting slowly. The actual article put the slow boot down to running 7 in a VM, and overall, they quite liked 7.

I stand corrected.

I guess I missed out on the intricacies of Bachelor/Master models – the pre B/M system in the Netherlands and to my best knowledge Germany always required a fully completed Drs. (NL) or Dipl. (DE) – both equivalent to M.Sc.

Interestingly: http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&uin=uk.bl.ethos.509887

I got put on the wrong foot because it’s categorized under “Medical Biophysics”. I’m more accustomed to “Medical Informatics”.

Btw, does anyone know if the thesis got accepted? ( I couldn’t find any information on that ).

I sincerely apologize to Dr. Samuel for doubting his credentials. Still … moron.

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